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Jeane

I am wondering too. Especially why she put vinegar in it? That's cool there is a cookbook to try from. (I don't care for fried green tomatoes, but just a few days ago I had a recipe called for green bell peppers and I didn't have any. Instead I used the last of my garden- green cherry tomatoes! It worked pretty well, considering).

Caroline

I know pumpkin pie, of course but have never tried green pumpkin. I'm sure it's just a delicious.
What a mouthwatering post!

Stefanie

Never tried green pumpkin pie. I must say I would be hesitant to give it a try with a cup of vinegar poured on it. Or maybe that helps make it sweet? All my pumpkins are orange and picked so now chance to try it.

Kathryn Sanderson

Other treats? In "The Long Winter"? If you're talking about culinary treats, precious few. Literary treats are to be had in abundance, particularly in Wilder's typically vivid and exact descriptions of the Dakota landscape, the increasingly desperate day-to-day struggle for existence, and above all (literally!), the weather. The story is increasingly bleak and frightening as winter tightens its hold on the town and the Ingalls family. Well worth reading. I've read it more times than I can count. Arguably the darkest book in the series.

Penny

I think this is the book in the Little House series that I have read the most. I tend to pick it up when we have a long winter, or a major snowfall, and it still inspires me, in spite of the harshness of that winter. I've always wondered about the green pumpkin pie - and I have tried pumpkin pie from the L. H. Cookbook, which looked beautiful, and tasted awful. I was young and didn't know to use a pie pumpkin. :)

Danielle

My library has the cookbook that has the recipes that the books mention. I have checked it out and looked it over but never did try any of them. I tend to have to stick pretty closely to most recipes as cooking is generally not my thing, but sometimes substituting one thing for another works just fine. If I am cooking for myself I am a pretty undemanding audience.

Danielle

Pumpkin pie is my favorite! I did google green pumpkin pie and it looks like cooks have tried the recipe and most of the photos I saw do make it look pretty good actually. I only ever eat pumpkin pie at Thanksgiving time, which is just around the corner!

Danielle

I wonder what the vinegar does to the taste? I wonder if the green pumpkin is bitter and the brown sugar and vinegar adds some sort of balance?--So I googled it and it sounds like vinegar could add to the sweetness, which somehow seems a little strange! It could be a fun science/cooking project but I think I will stick to regular pumpkin pie! :)

Danielle

I thought I had read this as a child, but it all seems so new to me, I don't think I ever did. I am just at the beginning still--a bad sign when all the birds keep on flying south and don't bother to touch down. You know it is going to be bad when the snow starts falling in October! I have enjoyed all the books I've read/reread and am sure I will quickly fall into this story as well.

Danielle

I hate to admit it, but I am not sure I would know how to make a proper 'from scratch' pumpkin pie even as an adult! I have a feeling that their taste buds were quite different from our own. I am very much enjoying this book, but am sort of dreading what I have a feeling is going to be quite a harsh time! I will have to keep this book in mind next summer when it is swelteringly hot--a long winter will then sound quite appealing! :)

LindaY

You will be more impressed by what they went through if you know that, unlike what is portrayed in the book, the Ingalls had a young couple and their baby staying with them, and apparently neither adult did a lick of work to help Pa and Ma.

Danielle

I Am impressed by how they managed so well and do wonder about the reality of life back then. I am tempted to read more--a biography or diaries or something, but I also sort of want to keep the memories set in my mind. After I finish the rest of the books I might look around for a good nonfiction book to read about Laura Ingalls Wilder's life. So interesting to think about life back then!

Kathy

I've not tried green pumpkin pie, but I'm impressed by Ma's creativity! I think as I reread these books I'm going to develop a new respect for her. When I read the books as a child, of course I identified with Laura (in fact, if we'd had a daughter, I planned to name her Laura)--but now as an adult, I'm quite interested in Ma. I feel like I'd have made a lousy pioneer, but I guess you do what you have to do.

Smithereens

I think my gustative imagination got turned off at the vinegar bit. I can't really imagine how it tastes, but I'm not quite willing to try. Would you?

LindaY

As Alton Brown always illustrates, chemical changes do happen when you bake. I can't remember, does it say what kind of vinegar? I suspect it's apple cider vinegar and perhaps goes toward adding an apple taste to the green pumpkin. I'll also assume the green pumpkin was pretty dry and the vinegar helped hydrate it. I have seen recipes for vinegar pies; I remember reading somewhere that our pioneer ancestors ate such bland foods (lots of starch) that when they had flavorings they tended to go for sours and sweets. A Pennsylvania Dutch table, for instance, would have several kinds of sours and sweets on the table, especially in the winter. Could be it held off scurvy and pellagra, too.

Danielle

It is amazing how she could whip up a meal out of what seems like nothing! I guess you had to be pretty savvy in the kitchen back then since resources were pretty limited. Laura is like Jo March--the character every little girl (well, most of us) is able to best relate to--or is admiring of! Laura Ingalls Wilder doesn't go into a lot of detail about Ma and Pa, but she does give little hints as to what their lives were like. I think she was somewhat educated and came from the east, if I am remembering correctly. I would not have done well in that situation either, but maybe that is just assuming something--who knows what I would have been like back then--I guess women didn't have much choice, really. Have you read Edna Ferber's So Big? Later, of course, but the main character struggles (and succeeds) to keep her farm after her husband dies young. It has that same flavor of self-reliance.

Danielle

Yeah, I am already wrinkling my nose a little and smacking my lips together at the idea of the sourness, but maybe it was actually quite good. I would totally give it a go if someone placed a piece of it in front of me! And as Pa said it tasted like apple pie, and I love apple pie, maybe it was much better than we are imagining it. Now, if was sheep intestines or something....I might do a pass on that... ;)

Danielle

Yes, I think it was apple cider vinegar now that you mention it, which would be why it tasted like apple pie. I imagine green pumpkin was not a particularly pleasantly tasting food, so the vinegar was likely a real improvement. How interesting about the appeal of sour foods. I really need to get that cookbook again (I checked it out from the library ages ago) and take a look at the recipes. salt and pepper was probably as exciting as it ever got--and sugar for sweet. I do love learning about these sorts of things and how people lived--what they ate and wore--part of the beauty of these stories!

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